Some advice needed before 1st purchase

[cr007]

I'm a bit new to all of this, so I have been reading up as much as possible. I'm looking to get a Titan e-cig and some liquid. The only thing I am unsure about is the strength of liquid to buy. I currently smoke 15 0.7mg analogs a day (about 10.5mg nicotine in total), but I've been told 30mls of liquid will refill about 200 carts, which only means 5.4mg nicotine per cart using the 36mg strength. Is this right? Can someone advise what strength would be best for me?

Thanks 

[Obie]

Hello cr007

I understand what you mean, i also would like to be able to compare the amount of nicotine i put into my body from the liquid i vape, to what i used to get from smoking analogs (although i smoked roll ups which may be stronger).
I would like to know that my nicotine intake hasn't grown too much, though i suspect it has.
Hopefully some of the brainier people on the forum could help shed some light on this, what would be helpful is a nicotine by the drop chart so you could check the amount of drops to refill your cart to the strength of liquid used and know the nicotine value.

I started on 18mg and went up (roll ups) till i got the hit i wanted.

[Darth Vaper]

To figure out the Nic rating (MG) you will require is a bit different for each individual.
The rating for MG is per 1ml of liquid.

The more analogues you smoked the Higher the MG you will need.

On average I smoked 30 analogues a day. For me 24mg did the trick with 36mg in the morning.
As time has progressed(1st month) I rarely use the 36 in the morning. Just using 24mg now.
And 18mg if drinking/chain vaping.
I seem to be reducing my intake gradually.

A basic break down of what you will need in real simple terms:

5- cigs a day 8mg or 0mg for some.
10 cigs a day 11mg
20 cigs a day 18mg
30 cigs a day 24mg
40 cigs a day 36mg

These are middle of the road suggestions. You may find you have to go up or down one step on the list.
It varies too much on each individual. How much of an addiction you have and how well vaping (does it) for you.Your habits as an analogue smoker play a strong role in this.

Weaker the dose the more you will have to vape to get your fix.

Stronger the dosage the less you will have to vape.
But here's where you may hit a snag. Some need the vice of puffing, as it has become a habitual tick.

Hope this helps
Best of luck

[Obie]

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[cr007]

Thanks Darth, that info was very helpful. Sounds as if I will need to get 11 & 18 and see how I go from there.   

[monkeyjim]

Hi, Newb here,
Expecting the delivery any day soon.
Trying to find out as much as I can before I comes.
Reading your helpful post and I was wondering if the strength of the analogues that you smoke normally is a factor.
For instance I was on Marlb Ultra Lights which is .3 Nic. Recently moved to Lights again which are .5.
I smoke about 20 a day, so any idea's what I should be smoking?
I'm thinking maybe 11mg juice?

Cheers
Jim

[minus1724]

Hi, Newb here,
Expecting the delivery any day soon.
Trying to find out as much as I can before I comes.
Reading your helpful post and I was wondering if the strength of the analogues that you smoke normally is a factor.
For instance I was on Marlb Ultra Lights which is .3 Nic. Recently moved to Lights again which are .5.
I smoke about 20 a day, so any idea's what I should be smoking?
I'm thinking maybe 11mg juice?

Cheers
Jim

11mg. sounds abut right, for a starter. and then you can easy move down to 8mg.

[caz]

hi monkey   i used to smoke  lambert & butler lights  about 20 a day    i found that 18mg  was enough to get me off the cigs although everybody is different.   

[kitsune(Lisa)]

I was a marlboro light 20-30/day.  started and still using 18mg.  The advantage to starting a little high, is you can cut down with glycerine if needed.  Harder to add nicotine.  11mg should be ok for you.
hope your stuff gets here soon.
Let us know

Lisa

[Looby]

I was a 20 - 30 B&H Sovereign smoker 0.9 Nic. I find using 24mg liquid is great, but i'm also finding 11mg is ok too.  Its difficult. I'm still experimenting, and am still smoking 8 analogs a day. I can't get past that morning cig and after meals and before bed..they're the hard ones, but i'm reluctant to buy the 36mg.

Sorry for the rambling, that really wasn't much help was it?

Looby

[Phil A.]

I used to smoke Camels and then went down through Camel lights and was finally on Marlboro Silver (which are the "ultra lights") which I think were around 0.4mg nicotine.
I initially thought the same as you and went for 11mg, but it was too low for me with no throat hit (one reason I liked the marlboro silvers was they still had a good throat hit even though they were very light) and it felt like i was vaping thin air.
I then went on to 18mg Camel juice and found it perfect from a satisfaction point of view with a great throat hit.
However, I did find that I was vaping almost constantly, which was partly because of the novelty and partly because of the nicotine craving: even after a couple of weeks I found that it took over an hour for me to "wake up" in the morning to get my nicotine levels.

I now use a combination of 24mg, 18mg and 18mg cut with menthol 0mg and glycerin (down to about 11mg) and it seems to work great for me:

I start with 24mg first thing in the morning, then vape 18mg throughout the day and use the milder menthol in an evening: The menthol intensifies the throat hit and by that time my nicotine levels are pretty good!

I guess what I'm saying is that everyone is individual and what works for one person may not work for another: one of the great things about vaping is that you can control your nicotine intake to suit you!

I would recommend that you get a stronger juice than you think you need: You can always dilute it down with Glycerin or Menthol if it's too strong, but you can't increase the strength of a juice...

Where did you read that 30ml will fill 200 cartridges? I find that 30ml lasts me about 2 weeks meaning I vape around 2ml per day.

With 36mg juice that means 72mg of nicotine, or 36mg of nicotine on 18mg per day which seems considerably more than the 8mg I used to get through smoking: I did read that the absorption through vaping is less than through smoking however so it's difficult to make a direct comparison

[prof beard]

I smoked 20-30 .3mg-.7mg cigs a day for donkey's years.  I've found the 11mg-18mg liquid range is best.  I'd work on one cart being the same as 5 cigs.  BUT, once tou start topping up thecarts with you own liquid, such calculations become nigh impossible

[monkeyjim]

Thanks for the advice. Although I smoke Marlboro from what I'm seeing and reading it sounds like i'll enjoy Camel Liquid more.

There does seem like a lot of faffing about with vaping! This side of things worries me because I might just end up thinking I can't be arsed!
I just want an easy transition, without too much messing about. I see on these videos that people have got loads of types of e-cig and
carry all the paraphernalia around with them all the time. I really want to keep my Titan with the chargeable case round with me (when it gets here  )
and have two carts ready to go for the day. Is this possible? Or am I just being a naive newb.
I know I sound a bit lazy, which I guess I am, but all this cutting with glycerine kind of scares me. In the sense that the commitment you
make to e-cigs is perhaps larger than the one you make to normal cigs.

Pro's and con's I guess, I'd sooner not be filling my lungs with all of the tar I am at the moment.

Bye for now - I'm already becoming obsessed, reading forums at work!  

[kitsune(Lisa)]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with buying the already mixed liquids and or carts.  I find I fill 6 or so carts and they last me a few days--mind you I do top off as need throughout the day.  I Have my PCC--battery and atomizer, I also cary extra liquid (5ml bottle). I have a small USB case that I keep several extra parts in, just in case.  don't necessarily keep with me at all times, just nearby if I'm going to be out all day.  Never know when something will fail.

You will find your own comfort level--you will also find which way works best--as you have noticed we all do things just a bid differently.
It all seemed a bit much when I started reading, and even when I first started with my kit--now I have found what works best for me.
You will do great and you will love the changes vaping brings.

Lisa

[Larry]

I smoked less than a pack a day(roll ups) but I first tried 11mg then 18 mg which didn't do it for me so I got some 24mg which hit the spot.  I'm now vaping 36mg and don't notice much difference between the two.  People tend to compare e-cigs to real cigarettes such as how many cigarettes does a cartdrige equal but they're different than cigarettes so I did what I had to to satisfy my craving which in my case meant moving up to 24mg.  I'd suggest starting off with 18 mg and if you find yourself vaping like a mad man, move up to 24mg.  Sometimes I vape like a mad man at 36mg(especially first thing in the mornings) so I don't see any connection to how much I smoked and the strength of the liquid I vape.   

[Looby]

Monkeyjim...

I must admit i do have a whole kitchen cupboard shelf full of e-cig stuff and 2 diff e-cigs..and that's less than 2 weeks work   

As for obsession...you can see from my signature what happens when you join this forum 

Hope it all works out for you, you'll find your own way and methods, i'm still trying to find my 'all day vape' for instance....we'll get there in the end.

[elly]

To figure out the Nic rating (MG) you will require is a bit different for each individual.
The rating for MG is per 1ml of liquid.

The more analogues you smoked the Higher the MG you will need.

On average I smoked 30 analogues a day. For me 24mg did the trick with 36mg in the morning.
As time has progressed(1st month) I rarely use the 36 in the morning. Just using 24mg now.
And 18mg if drinking/chain vaping.
I seem to be reducing my intake gradually.

A basic break down of what you will need in real simple terms:

5- cigs a day 8mg or 0mg for some.
10 cigs a day 11mg
20 cigs a day 18mg
30 cigs a day 24mg
40 cigs a day 36mg

These are middle of the road suggestions. You may find you have to go up or down one step on the list.
It varies too much on each individual. How much of an addiction you have and how well vaping (does it) for you.Your habits as an analogue smoker play a strong role in this.

Weaker the dose the more you will have to vape to get your fix.

Stronger the dosage the less you will have to vape.
But here's where you may hit a snag. Some need the vice of puffing, as it has become a habitual tick.

Hope this helps
Best of luck

This is an excellent help darth many thanks 

[6.5x55]

I smoked about 30 rollies a day with filters and I'm finding the 18mg fine. It doesn't make me dizzy or give me headaches no matter how much I vape  .

[Concupiscible]

Just wanted to add, that I was a "lights" smoker - I thought that I would need a low low dose but my original order of 8mg did not work for me, thankfully I had 18mg in my TW starter kit and that is what I've used ever since.

LOL at Looby's post, I am in that category too. I should have stayed away from the forums - now I'm crazy

[Tigara]

Just wanted to add, that I was a "lights" smoker - I thought that I would need a low low dose but my original order of 8mg did not work for me, thankfully I had 18mg in my TW starter kit and that is what I've used ever since.

LOL at Looby's post, I am in that category too. I should have stayed away from the forums - now I'm crazy

Just remember, you can still use the 8mg, if you have some left. You can buy the same flavor at 24mg and cut it down. Example: 5ml of 8mg + 10ml of 24mg = 15ml of 19mg.......

[LuvRedheads]

It's always good to research.
 

[melinda_newton]

  i bought the firelight and i got 16 strenght i want to move up to 24 and i heard so many good things about totally wicked e liquid so can i buy it and use it with my firelight..right now i can not upgrad on my e cigerette but later i will
thanks

[capt12b]

Welcome to the forum melinda_newton, and yes TW has the best juice I have found on the market. I am not familiar with the firelight device but if you can add fluid to it then yes you can use the TW juice with it

[StevieD]

Hiya melinda_newton, welcome to the forum. Like capt, I'm not familiar with the firelight e-cig, but if you can get to the floss in the carts then you can refill it.... and the range of juices from TW is one of the best around.
Happy vaping.

P.S. I've just checked the website for firelight and they sell their own juice for use with all models... so yep, you'll be fine with TW Juices.

[fordmech_2000]

personally i would go for the tornado or the screwdriver they outlast the titan and perform better. most all start with the titan and move up to the sd after the disappointment with the titan. as far as the strength of nic in the fluid imho it does not matter or make a difference to me but that is my opinion your mileage may vary. good luck and welcome to the forum!!!

[malkavian]

Amazing how opinions differ

Just so you know where I'm coming from: I haven't been smoking for a very long time (analogs), and the daily use was around 10 cigarettes a day. I like Red Cecil, a .9 mg. cigarette. My main attraction has always been the stimulating effect of the nicotine, the tobacco is more incidental to that. The whole smoking part isn't really very integral to my identity nor do I get a remarkable pleasure from the actual smoking. I've actually been a little bit pissed about th anti-smoking people making the tobacco companies very scared of doing any substantial product development and just letting users decide - for instance I've wondered why they didn't make a doubte, triple or quadruple strength cigarette in slim and slimmer form factor (!) because that would optimize the drug intake and minimize the impact from cumbustion -. but noooooo, the anti-smoking crusaders are threatening with words like "drug delivery device" to make it all sound scary (like ... DUH ... of course it's a drug delivery device, just like a coffee cup or a beer bottle). Basically, I just like the effects, want to do it as safely as possible and be able to dose using inhalation (titrate) The whole "throat hit" thing isn't so important to me and the strongest throat hits diminish my pleasure of vaping.

OK, so I have a Tornado and have sampled juice strengths from 11 to almost 40 mg. The equipment is a week old and likely not broken in. Maybe better performance is just ahead? I don't know.

However, I know that I favor the stronger nicotine products, although they appear to have a stronger throat hit as nicotine goes up. This could just be coincidence, though? Much is yet to be explored, but right now it looks like I'll be going with the 36 mg. pre-mixed or the Platinum series 54 mg + flavorings which will also dilute nicotine strength.

Another small practical thing is that cartridges will last longer with stronger juice. I'm lazy as hell in that way and it certainly weighs in. With 11 mg. strength I fear I'd have to carry thrice the amount of carts or mess around with refills during the day. Impracitcal, time consuming, and not an option I'd like.