Side effects from e-Smoking

[Goffski]

As the title says really, has anyone noticed any side effects since starting e-Smoking? Good or Bad!

Apart from well over doing it in the first few days and feeling very ill all i've noticed is i'm having real trouble getting to sleep at night. I get up in the morning feeling shattered but soon wears off and then thats it i'm wide awake for the rest of the day and then not tired again at night when i need to go to bed. 

[Silk]

"To me" that sounds more like side effects from not smoking cigarettes (not just nicotine) than from e-cigs. The list of withdrawal effects from these things is horendous and easily found. (I don't look anymore).

Only side effect I notice if I 'only' vape is I seem to start getting congested, but as I get the same if I smoke tailor made cigs, I think that may just be me. 

Oh and smelly wee - I know TMI... but you did ask, (and I do drink plenty fluid...albeit mainly coffee)

On ECF (when it comes back) - there is a lot of info on other side effects, but how much is individuals personal allergies to certain ingredients is anyones guess atm.

[Goffski]

Yeah, read a hell of a lot of stuff on ECF, when i was feeling pretty bad it made me feel better! Also about all the side effects associated with stopping smoking. The other week i did go through some very dizzy spells and thinking i was over vapin' but a few years ago i managed to quite for almost six months and i remember at the start feeling pretty grim, light headed and dizzy all the time.

Just thought it would be good to start a similar thread on here while ECF are having a few problems.

[Abe]

It's a good idea goffski, I can also refer customers here, as like you said, people like to read about others suffering, I mean, they like to know that other people have gone through the same process

[spiraller]

End of my second day I got a bad burning throat like heartburn. Peaked on day 5 now its starting to dissipate. Also inflamed membranes in my sinuses and nosebleeds. Again that side effect is disappearing slowly. Both side effects were unpleasant but not unbearable. IMHO possibly caused by overdoing the vaping whilst my body/head tried to get around this new idea of nicotine fix without the 10 minute smoke inhalations.

My sleeping patterns are always a bit screwy so I can't comment on that one

Lol Silk are you sure you haven't been eating asparagus 

On the plus... energy levels suddenly shot up. Found myself sprinting down the corridor at work on Monday and a feeling of just wanting to burn energy. That took me by surprise. And wierdly, psychologically, I am not fixating on when I can get my next nicotine fix at work, and less focus on wanting to smoke is making me forget I might need some nicotine... I should think that like for like, my nicotine intake has dropped at work since starting to vape. In turn, the initial 24 and 36 mg I was using is now too strong, one week on, and needs cutting majorly  and that's cool by me

[Silk]

LOL - Spiraller  no, well not recently.

The sinus thing might be down to the propylene glycol (PG), as it does have a property that can lead to drying out of mucus mebranes. I have a habit of nasaly inhaling/exhaling and it can lead to blocking my nose pretty quickly.
On a plus side - there were some reports done (years ago) on how PG was tested as a possible barrier against certain HN type viruses (flu).

You might want to give e-cigs.co.uk JC sample packs a look (when he has them in) - He does one in NPG (Glycerine based) I like them, but find it tends to give a basic similar sweetness to all the flavours (the little bottles are cute though, and the droppers are great for refilling/topping off). I may give them another go in PG just to see if it really does make a difference to the taste.

[spiraller]

Yeah Silk I have the PG version of the sample pack (I thought they were a bit sweet but there you go). The bottles are perfect for on the move but I put them down and lose them. Found one in the bathroom this morning.

Its really interesting what you're saying about PG drying out membranes. Makes sense. Wondering if steam inhalations would alleviate that, although it seems to be slowly clearing up now anyway.

My immune system generally works like Domestos which is probably due to the germy rugrags I am in contact with hehe, but PG as a flu barrier, I am impressed. Good to hear that there are some great positives to vaping.

I had a sudden question enter my mind, about QC of the various brands of eliquid; is it consistent, and is it done home or away? How can we be sure of batch quality? Just a curious thought really.

[Sirico]

room and clothes smell of smoke oh wait thats cos I havnt cleaned up since quitting skummy student 
only had a floaty feeling when I have overdone the nic aka the rush nothing yet regarding e-smoking directly that I didnt have when smoking like bit of a dry throat when I wake up

[efaglil]

Thought it a bit unethical to post content from someone else's forum but the link is here...
http://www.e-cigarette-forum.com/forum/health-safety-e-smoking/3305-list-common-symptoms-when-e-smoking.html

The main symptoms when starting on ecigs are below...

1.) Dry Throat and / or Sore Throat
2.) Acne breakouts
3.) Hiccups
4.) Headaches, Nausea & Shakiness
5.) Muscle Cramps and Aches
6.) Night Sweats
7.) Diarrhoea
8.) Coughing
9.) Mouth Ulcers / Canker Sores
10.) Racing Pulse, Dizziness, Slurred Speech
11.) Heartburn

To be honest and in my opinion, I think a lot of this can be attributed directly to not smoking.  I've given up plenty of times before now without the use of ecigs and still experienced the same symptoms.  All minor ailments have only been temporary and have disappeared within a few weeks.

[efaglil]

Oh, and Silk, someone reported smelly wee as well but for some reason it's not been added to the list

[spiraller]

Oh, and Silk, someone reported smelly wee as well but for some reason it's not been added to the list

LMFAO!

[spiraller]

<----- gives Lil a little Kudos for making sore ribs hurt again

[efaglil]

Oh eh!  I was being serious! 

Kudos you say?  oooohhh, thanks petal, you're a kind one

[spiraller]

Oh eh!  I was being serious! 

OMG! LMAO it was said so deadpan as well...

Considering I even asked Silk about his asparagus habits!!!!

Obsession with Silks kidney functions here lol 

[fluffy]

actually no ill effects from ecigs and i do both ecigs and analogs(guess im the lucky one )

[itsbetterthansmoking]

Well, I have been vaping for 10 days now.  I stopped smoking the minute my e-cig arrived and have not even considered smoking since. 

The only side-effect I have noticed was similar to Spiraller.  For the first couple of days I had a feeling in my throat similar to acid reflux.  That has since gone away and the main thing I notice now is that my sense of smell has improved.

I like vaping so much that I am trying to put together a e-cig business.

[spiraller]

Well, I have been vaping for 10 days now.  I stopped smoking the minute my e-cig arrived and have not even considered smoking since. 

Thats exactly my experience. I can only think that if people are finding it hard to give up tobacco altogether maybe its something more psychological than physiological? It seems to be different for each person; some drop the ciggies faster than others. But well done Itsbetterthan!

I emailed a psychologist last weekend suggesting that the ecigarette is going to be an important breakthrough in studying the psychology of addiction. If I was back doing postgrad studies it would be a definate research project for me!

[itsbetterthansmoking]

Spiraller,

I agree.  At least in my case the addiction is mostly psychological.  I had been smoking for longer that 25 years.  I have quit smoking long enough to get over the nicotine addiction several times, and it was always the habit that brought me back.  There are just times that call for a smoke break, after a good meal, driving in the car, etc.  I remember when I would quit I would catch myself flicking imaginary ashes out of the car window.  Truly strange.....

Anyway, vaping completely fill that void.  I feel like I have been converted to a new religion and need to "spread the word".

[smwei]

you guys confuse me -- how is the fact that e-cigs make not smoking easier an argument for _psychological_ addiction? Seems to me it's easy because the main physiological addiction -- to nicotine, duh -- is still being served.... that said, it probably does help that the fingers and the mouth remain engaged in similar ways...

[efaglil]

you guys confuse me -- how is the fact that e-cigs make not smoking easier an argument for _psychological_ addiction? Seems to me it's easy because the main physiological addiction -- to nicotine, duh -- is still being served.... that said, it probably does help that the fingers and the mouth remain engaged in similar ways...

For me smwei, it's the split second of "shock/horror" I feel in my lungs when I inhale.  It's difficult to explain, I've also heard it described as a lung punch.   I find that to be both physical and psychological.  I've weaned myself off nicotine many times but I can't wean myself off the lung punch. 

[ill_dawg]

you guys confuse me -- how is the fact that e-cigs make not smoking easier an argument for _psychological_ addiction? Seems to me it's easy because the main physiological addiction -- to nicotine, duh -- is still being served.... that said, it probably does help that the fingers and the mouth remain engaged in similar ways...

the big part for me is the act of smoking. it's the main part of the habit. going outside, sometimes taking that quiet moment to appreciate your surroundings. taking a drag while you collect your thoughts in a conversation. a patch or a pil can give you nicotine, but it can't do all these other things for you, and that's why nothing but the e-cigs can replace analogues for me.

Smoking a(n) (e-)cigarette is like punctation for your life. It's more than just a method of administering nicotine to the body, it's taking the extra time to add closure to the little things we do everyday. without it, at least for me, life would just seem like one long run-on sentince, something missing at all the little turnings along the way.

[efaglil]

ill_Dawg, although, it's not the deciding factor for me, I totally appreciate what you're saying - you make a very good point. 

When I work from home I tend to really focus and become fully absorbed in whatever it is I'm doing.  Smoking analogues were the excuse to take a 5 minute break;  to step away from the computer and "regroup" thoughts; plan the next step or plan how to overcome a problem.   Since I don't have to go outside now, I miss that...  When I'm in my actual place of work it's different because some of the guys still smoke, therefore I can "escape" for 5 minutes with them.

When I've given up smoking in the past (unsuccessfully 'til now I might add  ), one of the things I've tried to achieve is to break habits/routines/associations as part of the preparation beforehand, ie. don't smoke immediately after meals, don't smoke when I first get in the car.  Maybe that's why going outside isn't the killer for me??  Still bloody miss it though! 

[ZILLA]

Hello ppl , top notch forum , Just like to say I've been using an E-cig  for almost three weeks now and beforehand I was smoking between 50 and a 100 grams of Golden Virginia every week for 12 years. I quit as soon as it arrived and it was the easiest thing I've ever done. As for side effects , the only noticeable ones are , I don't stink of tobacco smoke , I can taste food properly and that physical desire to smoke has gone.

I'm not sure which model I have, Its just called a mini cigarette from miniciggy and I find it works very well. I find it produces the same amount of vapour as any of the the E-cigs in the videos I've watched  and three good lugs on it and my head is well and truly spinning (using 8mg carts )

I'm just about to purchase a 30ml bottle of super high strength 36mg and considering 8mg carts hit the spot (for someone who smoked a reasonable amount of rolling tobacco) I'm expecting this stuff to knock my block off ..lol ,

Cheers,

ZILLA

I'm pretty sure that mine is a DCE901 looking at the pictures on the main website, lovely bit of kit , cant wait for some of that stuff that kicks like a mule

[exogenesis]

Danger Will Robinson !   

I've found:
18mg good for general long drags & smoke sessions,
24mg great for least time spent dragging, I use this strength all the time,
but 36mg = OD very easy,
 - if your head is spinning with 8mg carts, I suspect 36mg should be tried carefully.
No point in spoiling the experience.

[ZILLA]

thx for the heads up , I will approach with caution .

I do tend to hold the vapour in my lungs for quite a while so lack of oxygen plays a fairly large part as far as the head spinning is concerned. That way your body gets your blood pumping good and proper and the nicotine heads for the brain in double quick time. Probably quite foolish but hey I used to smoke ..

[crezo]

Hi all, just got my TW plat in the post today, and using the 11mg coconut. Tastes fantastic, was smaller than I was expecting and loving it all so far.

Only side effects I've noticed are a quite painfull left side. Been drinking a fair bit last week, so may be that, but may be related to e-cigs as I starting smoking them last week and have completely packed in cigs now. And also gurgling belly and major liquified shits.. lovely This has only been happening the last two days... but does relate to the time I got the tw liquid through the post.

More time will tell if just a coincidence.

On the plus side I feel MUCH happier and more awake. I always had a feeling of guilt when having a fag, and now have a smoke and love it! I also must say walking into my flat today when I got back from work, it had a very sweet aroma which is a hell of a shock compared to the usual stankyness of fag smoke (and bearing in mind I never smoked indoors).

So all round good stuff from me, drinking lots of water and laying off the jack and coke to see if my side/kidney decides to settle down... and hopefully the squits will dry up too I'll keep you all updated, which I' sure you all can't wait for!

Anyone else had the side pain (kidney area) and brown waterfalls?

[Wolfeslad]

hi crezo,

i'm with u on the side pain but its my right side    but 1 week later and its gone, dunno what it was bt hey ho 

[sunnyscott]

Yeah I've had a few side effects also. These include tender inside mouth & tongue, brown waterfalls with sharp pains in stomach before it happens. Stopped ecigging for 2 days in a row but had a few puffs of it at night. Am back vaping today, am feeling ok. Hope this all passes soon

[1010chrissy]

I had bought, but have returned due to severe dissatisfaction, the smokeless delight brand of ecigs. the carts were horrid. i am now waiting on my tw order, wich i hope will be better for you can fill your own carts. but when i had the other brand i had a terrible hollow feeling in my stomach, like i were hungry. if i vaped to much in the am, it stayed with me all day. but if i ate than vaped it seemed to not be so bad, or last so long. is this due to nicotine? I do have an ulcer, and a hietal hernia. my stomach is not in good shape. i ordered the36 mg tw juice. i am probably going to od on it.

[dbitton]

I ordered 36 mg too... I smoked at least 2 packs of Marlboro lights a day, the 36mg is WAY too strong for me!  lol  three puffs and I don't even feel like looking at it again for two hours! lol  But I haven't smoked a real ciggy since noon yesterday!  WOO HOOO!