Hong Kong. Has banned all exportation of E.Cigs.

[pillbox38]

Last week i was informed that the Honk Kong government had banned all exportation of e cigs and fluids. In effect throttling the supply worldwide. Up till now  i thought that this was a gesture they would not follow up with any commitment.

All 3 of my suppliers are having their goods returned to them. We are currently trying to find new ways to import the goods but i think it might be fair to expect a drying up of Supplies in the short term.

I believe that Tobacco companies and world government pressure is being exerted on HK to do this. In effect, if the distribution of Electronic Cigarettes and Nicotine cartridges and fluid is choked at its exit point..IE Hong Kong then we have no product..

[JohnBoy]

That is CRAZY! On what grounds? Ironic that a product that has probably helped tens of thousands of people give up smoking is to be banned. Shame on the HK Government.

[Maz]

Boll*cks...

What are we gonna do now?

[JohnBoy]

Well I've just ordered 2 months worth of juice!

[Maz]

I think there is going to be widespread panic buying Johnboy...

After that I suppose there is Johnsons Creek, I think that's made in the USA isn't it? - not that I really want to vape that stuff, there's been some odd reports about it - turning green in the bottles etc.

[frogbmth]

So does all the TW eliquid ship from or through HK? I thought it was manufactured in mainland China? Here is a story about how HK have been cracking down in the Hong Kong Standard

http://www.thestandard.com.hk/news_detail.asp?pp_cat=30&art_id=79120&sid=22983216&con_type=3

[Maz]

That article is bad news in itself.

If WHO have managed to get them banned in HK (Chinese soil, e-cigs country of origin) then other countries will probably follow, I know they are banned in Australia, but the Aussies have draconian laws anyway, so I wasn't that worried - are they banned anywhere else?

[frogbmth]

Jordan and Mexico have bans understand.

http://www.jordantimes.com/?news=13857

Remember HK still runs almost as a stand alone country with its own lagal system and regulations, very westernised and I wouldnt necessarily see this as something that is about to happen in China too.

[Maz]

Thanks Frog... 

It's not looking good though, anyway I have just ordered another month worth of liquid, taking my stash to two months, hopefully TW will have sorted something out by then.

This WHO is really beginning to get on my tits with this comment “no scientific evidence whatsoever that would confirm that the electronic cigarette is a safe and effective smoking cessation device”.

What they are not seeming to take into account is the mountains of evidence linking the tars and 4,000 odd chemicals in tobacco smoke to the five million worldwide premature deaths annually. Surely this at least warrants a benefit of the doubt scenario towards the e-cig until the tests are complete?

I will admit to being suspicious of the possible long term effects of inhaling some of the e-juice ingredients, but I think the benefits outweigh the possible risks involved. It's certainly preferential in my mind to the uncontested and confirmed long term risks of inhaling tobacco smoke.

LOL, can you tell I'm irritated by this? 

[pillbox38]

China is ok, i cannot see China banning them far from it. The issue is getting out of China, one thing with the Chinese though is they will not ship fluid from China itself..It appears their Government dont like this.

Cigs can be fingers crossed shipped from Beijing direct to Manchester. This is using Air freight, shipping takes longer and i have to mess about with  customs clearance myself so its a nuisance..But this is what we are working on currently.

USA orders i will bring in through the UK and then Re ship to the States myself..It pushes the cost up as im paying shipping and duties twice. Its either that or dont bother..

[JohnBoy]

What utter boll*x!  So the WHO is quite happy to allow tobacco, a known killer of millions, to continue to be sold/exported etc yet e-cig products are banned. Just goes to show how corrupt the tobacco industry is and the WHO loses all credibility...

[frogbmth]

It's peeing me off too! I have just ordered a 1 litre bottle of PG to cut the stuff I have thats too strong for me, I have calculated that I have enough to see me til Christmas  

For what it's worth, if analogs were invented now they would never be allowed.

Andy

[Wolfeslad]

i wonder if the HK health minister like the view from the tobacco companies pocket??

[Crossbow]

I'm sure hes laughing all the way to the bank

[ed_bollix]

Man... I have a LOT of hardware on order and bound for the US. I'll be watching this closely. If that stuff get's turned around I'll be very sad. I am also involved in a group bulk buy from CT and I think a lot of folks are counting on the stuff from that buy.. This info just turned up in the other forum and is sure to cause quite a disturbance.

[Garrydibley]

I can't see them lifting the ban short term.
Some one soon is going to have to get the ecig tested big time.

Jason are your stock levels for juice etc a live representation?

[mrkrab]

Man... I have a LOT of hardware on order and bound for the US. I'll be watching this closely. If that stuff get's turned around I'll be very sad. I am also involved in a group bulk buy from CT and I think a lot of folks are counting on the stuff from that buy.. This info just turned up in the other forum and is sure to cause quite a disturbance.

What is the info from the other forum about?

[moog]

To test the e-cig big time will take a lot longer than people will be willing to wait...unless there is an alternate way ie JC etc..

[moog]

Try this link... I know the topic is a bit old....but there are email contacts at the bottom...could be useful if you feel like telling them what you think..


http://www.who.int/mediacentre/news/releases/2008/pr34/en/

[Sirclickalot]

unbelievable but not suprised, the tobacco companies have there hands so far up most govt's ars*s, i expected summat like this to happen, it was just a matter of time, how stupid, yet fags are still in the shops on view to all, lets hope we all dont have to go back to analogs, but im sure the demand will create new supplies from somewhere else.

[mrkrab]

ugh, i knew this was too good to be true

[spiraller]

I believe that Tobacco companies and world government pressure is being exerted on HK to do this. In effect, if the distribution of Electronic Cigarettes and Nicotine cartridges and fluid is choked at its exit point..IE Hong Kong then we have no product..

New World Order wins again

Can't fight them b******s, they have their hooks too far into the credulous masses... US.

[Maz]

I was pretty sure that the UK government wouldn't ban these outright, so I thought we were pretty safe, got to admit that I certainly didn't see this coming - a ban from a foreign government, who'd credit it eh?

Big tobacco must be having a party right now, courtesy of WHO. That's another thing I didn't see coming, an industry as evil as tobacco, killing millions of people a year while cynically researching ways of making their lethal product even more addictive (google "crack nicotine" for more details), having the world health organisation doing their dirty work for them by condemning the one thing that will really get smokers off tobacco.

I am (almost) dumbstruck...
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....and bloody annoyed

[efaglil]

The Chinese are cunning creatures and i mean that in a nice way!  They'll find a means to ship... they're a resourceful lot and they have "friends" ...

The only thing I worry about is if it's stopped in this country, then we have to be a resourceful lot and have "friends"...   It's not the liquid that bothers me, it's the hardware.  I've got enough liquid to last me a year or more, but hardware is another matter.  I can go through 3 batteries and a couple of atomisers a month easily. 

One thing I don't understand is why Hong Kong have decided against... Isn't it supposed to be under the jurisdiction of China?  Sorry, can't think of the right word...  owned/managed?  Can anyone explain that bit? 

[moog]

I don't think the hardware will be a problem....you can still buy a bong as long as you don't use it for what bongs are used for

[pillbox38]

It wont stop the Products coming through but it is another headache, i got a shipment today of 2000 kits, this was 1 half of an order. The other half has been sent back. They were shipped at different times. My fluid orders have been split in three. TNT normally carry it, they refused.

It can off course come through Beijing or shanghai, some will get through Hong Kong, but it appears to me, today at least that for now HK are enforcing the ban.

They cant im sure stop batteries and atomisers, but who knows. All i do know is that definetely from two of my three suppliers they are scurrying around looking for alternatives, so i agree it can still relatively easily be over come, but its going to give people second thoughts on risking it

[efaglil]

LOL! funny Ian!

[moog]

Pillbox are they stopping the kits as well?

[Maz]

I don't think the hardware will be a problem....you can still buy a bong as long as you don't use it for what bongs are used for

What's a bong? 


 

[moog]