Portable cart refilling

[Crossbow]

I haven't seen this here, but it looks like an ideal way to not only have a handy size refill, but also refill carts out and about... and rather safer than a syringe

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Sealey-Precision-Oiler/dp/B000RO1DQE/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=diy&qid=1237979545&sr=8-3
http://www.toolsheduk.com/Q/841/2/10/Precision-Oiler.html
I got the idea from a primarily american forum, so looked for one over here..... and now have one on order

[Goffski]

No that looks like a pretty cool idea and on Amazon Uk too.

[Garrydibley]

I'm loving ths idea

[Daedalus]

I just ordered one. Check ebay, I got mine for $9.95 with free shipping. I let everybody know if it is good or not.

Wayne

[moog]

...anybody tried it out yet?

[Crossbow]

It hasnt arrived yet

[Crossbow]

And the verdict is......


Don't bother

[Goffski]

Oh well, it looked good at the time.

[Crossbow]

To add a little detail, now I've got more time.....

The needle is a bit too thick, and the push button control just opens a valve, theres no positive pressure, and so liquid delivery is painfully slow. As if that wasn't enough, the valve grabs the cart filler. The cheaper plastic versions would be a better bet..... Except they only seem to come prefilled with oil

[bro]

how about these ones http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/NEW-Precision-oiler-Steel-needle-tip-long-reach_W0QQitemZ390040203035QQihZ026QQcategoryZ3118QQssPageNameZWD1VQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em118Q2el1247

[Goffski]

Not quite as portable, as they hold 56ml, more than you get in a TW bottle. I'm quite happy with the little 5ml bottles i use, not ideal for re-filling on the go but good for dripping.

[Darth Vaper]

http://www.basspro.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10151_-1_10001_34407_175004005_175000000_175004000_175-4-5

You can also find them at Dick's, Sports Authority, Orvis. About 15ml. Just look in the fly tying section.

[Multisync98]

I'm having a small problem with the Cart filling... It's always sticking to the atomizer.. Am I doing something wrong?  Please help!

-Jim

[Crossbow]

Thats generally a sign that you are vaping the carts too dry, try topping up a bit sooner
The other cause can be a rogue strand of the atomizer wick sticking out like a hook

[Darth Vaper]

You could be sucking too hard. Are your draws too hard? OMG this sounds gay.

Have the same problem with polyfil foam. Since I have started using a nice sharp pair of scissors to trim excess fill down this has not been much of a problem. As crossbow stated it probably is some loose strands getting pulled into the steel mesh wick. Thought I was the only one with this issue. Could also be that you are not putting enough fill in the carts also.

[Multisync98]

You could be sucking too hard. Are your draws too hard? OMG this sounds gay.

Have the same problem with polyfil foam. Since I have started using a nice sharp pair of scissors to trim excess fill down this has not been much of a problem. As crossbow stated it probably is some loose strands getting pulled into the steel mesh wick. Thought I was the only one with this issue. Could also be that you are not putting enough fill in the carts also.

I know I do fill em enough... Problem is, no matter how hard I draw on it, I still end up with crap on the atomizer..  I'll keep playing around with it tho.  Thanks DV

-Jim

[Darth Vaper]

Sounds like maybe the fill your using might also be not suited for the job. Maybe fibers are smaller/finer than the usual sort. Smaller fiber = easier to get tangled in the mesh.

When I first had this problem, I would hold the cart insert close to a lighter to get the strands to contract.
Too close and you will effectively seal the filler shut. Just a quick pass.

Sorry if my post rubbed you wrong on the last post,(there I go again) I'm a bit of a crackpot.
As well as the others on this forum. Don't know whats gotten into me today. 
That post of crossbow in the shower feeling all mentholy fresh made me cry.

Hopefully it makes the forum a little more enjoyable. Seems alot of people come here all aggravated, with hardware issues, and fluid problems. Life is too damn short. Think most here get it, and are just trying to buy a little more time with this e-smoking craze.

Laugh............. you'll live longer!!!!!

[Multisync98]

Sounds like maybe the fill your using might also be not suited for the job. Maybe fibers are smaller/finer than the usual sort. Smaller fiber = easier to get tangled in the mesh.

When I first had this problem, I would hold the cart insert close to a lighter to get the strands to contract.
Too close and you will effectively seal the filler shut. Just a quick pass.

Sorry if my post rubbed you wrong on the last post,(there I go again) I'm a bit of a crackpot.
As well as the others on this forum. Don't know whats gotten into me today. 
That post of crossbow in the shower feeling all mentholy fresh made me cry.

Hopefully it makes the forum a little more enjoyable. Seems alot of people come here all aggravated, with hardware issues, and fluid problems. Life is too damn short. Think most here get it, and are just trying to buy a little more time with this e-smoking craze.

Laugh............. you'll live longer!!!!!

You didn't offend me DV, I was just explaining what I did.  Anyway, I'll try that idea you just listed, that might work better..  One question, do you think cigarette filters (clean of course) would work as a good filler?  My local smoke shop has a bag of just filters, unpapered, for like $3.  What do you think?

-Jim

[Darth Vaper]

I think crossbow might have the answer for that one. For the mean time I don't think so. Too dense, don't think it would let the juice out easily either. I could be wrong though. I try to stay away from the smoke shops these days, if you catch my drift. They seem to give me the cold shoulder when I tell them about e-smoking. (another customer lost)

SIDENOTE
Wondering now if you have atomizer with a peace of it's mesh sticking/bent out. Just one broken strand would be all it would take to impale itself into the cart material and pull it out when removing the cart

[Crossbow]

In my (fairly limited) experience, loose packed carts actually perform better. Short of a total cart redesign, I don't think much will beat fluval type filler

[Multisync98]

I'm trying everything I can think of to make this work and so far no luck... I'm about to give up!  

-Jim

[Cat]

Hi Jim, don't give up. My daughter is having the same problem, and as DV says it could well be a tiny piece of metal sticking up and catching onto the filling that is causing it.

I dont have the problem, and one reason I dont, is that I push my filling down about a couple of ml and that seems to work, at least on the Titan, it does as the coil on the Titan is quite a deep one. ( I am sure this was a tip I heard here )

When I smoked the 901 I did have a similar problem, which I dealt with by putting a drop of glycerine on the atomiser before putting the cart in.

I have never replaced any filling yet, I simply take it out, wash and dry it and then replace it, when the time comes to do so, I will use the Fluval which you should be able to get at any home aquaria shop. 

Jim, when we start with e-cigs, its like learning a new skill, and yes it can be frustrating trying to find the answer, but this is why the forum is so important, someone, somewhere will have the right answer, and in this case that may be you, as we are all learning.

So keep smiling kiddo, and keep trying to find the answers.

( I read somewhere that you can use half a teabag, without the tea of course, as a filter too, cant for the life of me remember where I read that, but its another tip to try )

Personally, we are going to get the magnifying glass out and see if we can see a wire sticking up out of the coil.

UPDATE

We did find a wire that was catching onto the fibre filling, that has now been pushed back into place and so far, so good, problem solved.

Check your filling, see if there are any strings coming from it, if so, it is likely that a wire is catching it.

[Darth Vaper]

Hey Jim
I was going through your posts to find out what your using. I guess it's the 901. You might want to try a cartridge from a different manufacturer. TW's seem better than the ones that came with mine. Bit of a difference in design of filler area little more capacity too.

You may also want to try polyfil that comes in a sheet(craft stores sell) when you roll it up to slide it in the extra material will wedge itself in the mouthpiece side(need long fine tweezers for this). Atomizer side will be loose fitting, easy wetting. This seems to work well with TW's carts(insides are stepped). Clones I have are more of a tube shape.

Offhand you could cut sheeted polyfil in a slight triangle shape placing larger wider end towards the mouthpeice to give it a little more hold. Never tried this, just a theory.

If you are using the taping method. Tapping the e-cig led end down to get a little more fluid/life out, you could also be dislodging the filler, in the process.

I don't want to go down the glue road to many damn harmful chemicals in that stuff.


I bought a cheap 901 from VaporStix. What a POS. Bad machining, atomizer threaded end will slide out of body (had to resolder wire and crimp body to piece). Atomizer mesh is also loose. Again wants to slide up and down. Sometimes it wants to come out with the cartridge. I had to lathe out the inside battery breather hole do to issues with it contacting the opposite polarity when screwing the atomizer on. So I understand your frustration.

TW's atomizer I purchased seems to be better made and more solid. They look identical but the cheap one is a total POS. It could possibly be a factory second sold to them cheap. So my advice is to try a Wicked atomizer.

It comes down to you get what you pay for. When going the cheap route, you take a chance.

I thought:
(HEY THERE ALL MADE BY THE SAME COMPANY AND ARE IDENTICAL SO WHY PAY MORE) I learned the hard way.  They do seem to weed out the crap at the factory QC, and possibly sell it as a low grade, lower price.
Some seem to be cheap knockoffs and fakes.

So far my approved vendor list includes: For us newcomers in the US!!!!
http://www.totallywicked-eliquid.com Great flavors, helpful service, and Solid hardware from what I have seen.
http://www.juicyliquid.com  They sell nice bottles and mixing supplies great place, top notch product, superb service  
 

I think were all just searching for that perfect piece of hardware. Seems new ones are coming out all the time.
Which makes this search harder and more expensive. TW seems to be trying to help us in this search and selling us the best they can get there hands on. TW deserves some respect for this.(Standing Ovation) I think with them being the only e-cig supplier with a forum proves this. A substandard product won't last long on this site it seems.

I personally am waiting for them to sell the Titan with the PCC before I step into a new model.

Anyways Jim hope any or all of the posts I put up have helped you to get the most out of your hardware.
When you do find that perfect one please tell me. Pleeeeeeeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaasssseee!!!!!

Perfect Hardware Requirements:
Long lasting reliable atomizer
Long lasting all day battery or one with PCC case
Long lasting cartridge
Long lasting good impression
USB passthru is a plus

[Multisync98]

To all of you who've been giving me advice, A BIG THANKS!  Although I'm still having problems, I REALLY appreciate the help you're giving me. All this knowledge is teaching me something.  I should've gone with TW in the first place.  It's VERY true, you get what you pay for and this one came back to bite me...... HARD! 

So, I'm hoping I'll get my money back from E-smokey-treats.com, and then I'll order from TW.

Again, THANK YOU ALL for the help you've provided. It's not going unnoticed!

-Jim

[Darth Vaper]

I hear ya man......... think we all have are sad days of vaping.  Let us know how e-smokeytreats handles your situation good or bad. If they don't do a return, you can still use all the other stuff. Just have to get a new atomizer, it seems. In reality you were only going to get about a month of life out of it anyway.

And stay away from them analogues .......they'll only bring more heartache and pain then you really want.
Literally.

[Multisync98]

I hear ya man......... think we all have are sad days of vaping.  Let us know how e-smokeytreats handles your situation good or bad. If they don't do a return, you can still use all the other stuff. Just have to get a new atomizer, it seems. In reality you were only going to get about a month of life out of it anyway.

And stay away from them analogues .......they'll only bring more heartache and pain then you really want.
Literally.

UPDATE!

Phil from E-Smokeytreats.com has called me and told me that he's going to ship me a new Pen Style model, ABSOLUTELY FREE of ALL charges! He told me that it's going out tomorrow!  He apologized for my problems and all I have to do once I've recieved my new one is to ship the broken parts back to him.  So, I'm thinking, if I understood him right, is that I get to keep the DSE901 that does work. Anyway, that makes me a happy camper, plus, I've NEVER had bad luck with a penstlye!

-Jim

[steveovapesnow]

HI All,

Im new to vaping and have been off of the analogs now only for 8 days but I feel Great. I just went out and bought the Fluval filters at the pet store so I can begin refilling the wadding in my carts. I have torn the filters apart to make them thinner and cut it into strips length wise. I then took a straightened paper clip and wrapped the filter around it and pushed it into the cartridge. Pulled out the paper clip once it was in and used a sharp pair of scisors to trim the end. I noticed the straggler fibers on the end so........i took a lighter and held it close but not touching the filter and it trimmed them back very nicely to the edge of the cart. This has helped prevent the filters from getting caught in the atomizer and the look exactly like a factory filled cart...just a tip. 

[moog]

Welcome to the forum Steve.....

[steveovapesnow]

Thanks Moog. Glad to be here. I tell ya...this forum was what convinced me that vaping was the way to go. a wealth of information...but most importantly....the right path to saving my life. I was a 20-30+ per day analog user. its only been 8 days now but with all that i tried...gum, patches etc, vaping is the only thing that has worked. not one craving or slip up... after 14 years of smoking....i had forgotten how good it feels to feel good every day. in just a week my breathing has improved and i can see a difference in taste and smelling too. i look forward to contributing more to the boards!

[caz]

Welcome from me to Steve  glad its working out for you