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A couple of years ago I was diagnosed with Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease, caused by a £300 a month pipe smoking habit. In Oct 2008 I went over to an e-cigar and last week I had a spirometer test which showed I no longer had COPD.
However, my partner says by breath now smells like a polecat.
Anyone had a similar experience with the breath?
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2009, 06:12:42 PM » |
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Hi r898713 .... you mind if i call you R ? R ... That is really excellent man .... I have no idea what Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease is ... but sounds quite nasty ... will google it later ... so is that like a wee miracle or is it common for it to disappear after stopping the source of the problem ? Havent had anyone smell my breath .. but i imagine it smells of coffee and Lorann coconut ... cant remember what a polecat smells like .. been tryin to cut down on em The title health benefits may be apt for me what i would like to say / ask. I been gettin heart palpitations .. or something ... not sure, but somethin around that area definitely aint right .... only noticed it since around time i made the switch .... so hard to say if its a side effect of stoppin cigs, or startin vapein. i know the obvious answer is go to doctor, but im sure he will say stop vapeing, since its currently a big unkown and kicked in at same time i started .. but i love nicotine too much .. i know i wd just go back onto cigs again ... grrrr .. the stuff needs more testing ... well .. the syptoms are, slight tightness of chest / shortness of breath as lungs contract or something ... then like a surge, or spasm from around centre of chest, shooting upwards ... they come and go .. but can get them every few secs or so ..... not painful .. but certainly discomforting ... seem to be worse when in bed at night ... maybe cos im less active and more aware i guess a medical forum would be better for this post, but feel it belongs here, since there are sooo much we dont know about e-cigs, and may be relevant. i read that poll that shows most peoples 30ml bottle of juice lasts 3 weeks approx .. mine lasted over 4 weeks, so i dont seem to be over doing it. SO MY QUESTION IS: ... Anyone else been havin these symptoms since switchin, and maybe not said ? AND, I also see wee kinda spots or something across the back of my tongue ... never noticed that before i started vapeing .. not to say they werent already there .. just i never noticed em til now .... but thats a place you dont wanna get problems with either ... anyone else got those ? It may be handy to have a thread like this ... with health benefits .. but also, health issues people have ... until some proper testing is done on this stuff ... it will be up to us to communicate possible side effects with each other .. so dont hold back ..... no matter how silly it seems .. some one else be having the same side effect since switching ... Id say the health benefits are huge .. even though so little research has been done ... with what we do know about analogue cigs .. id say its a fair bet that e-cig is the lesser of the 2 evils You prob think im a paranoid hypochondriac now ... but im not paranoid ... its those men that spread the rumours about me .. over their radios ... Anyway .. Sorry for hijacking your thread R ... back over to you man ...  |
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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2009, 06:51:51 PM » |
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thats what i have it means we killed our lungs wih fags
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2009, 06:56:37 PM » |
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The only things I've noticed since I started vaping is a insatiable craving for watercress, (maybe my body is lacking in some sort of nutrient you get from watercress I dunno)
I have developed a couple of spots on the top of my tongue but near the front, they almost look like ulcers but without the white top and one of them is quite solid/hard and theyr a little sore, the front of my tongue is also a different shade to the rest of it, more red, but I've put this down to some of the juice getting onto my tongue when inhaling through the prefilled filters. I'm dripping now so hopefully this will all go away in a few days.
On the whole though I'm no longer borderline emphasymic, I can climb the stairs in one go now instead of having to stop one or more times to catch my breath, and I'm not coughing my guts up. I'm also only taking my inhalers for asthma at night now too before I go to bed, and they arent the first thing I reach for in the mornings. I go for another lung function test tomorrow, but after only 4 weeks of vaping my lung function had improved by 40%. so it's all very positive!
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2009, 09:03:20 PM » |
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Welcome r898713. Thats great to hear about such a quick success story like that. Brilliant, don't worry about the breath if your COPD has cleared. My mother suffers from the same condition, also brought on by 50+ years of quite heavy smoking. I've tried to get her to convert to e-cigs but she coughs on every attempted drag/pull (which doesnt happen with regular cigs). I really want here to make the switch for her own sake and well-being but she just cant 'take' vaping over smoking. Maybe she is one of the very few people who have a bad reaction to vapourised PG or glycerine like smoke machine smoke? Anyways, Ive been on e-cigs instead of tobacco for nearly 2 weeks and my asthma is improving already...Switching over to e-cigs and vaping was the best move I ever made... Hope you continue to reap the (health) benefits r898713  Hi r898713 ....
cant remember what a polecat smells like .. been tryin to cut down on em
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2009, 09:11:21 PM » |
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she coughs on every attempted drag/pull (which doesnt happen with regular cigs). why but That had me in stitches Spoink. LMAO!
has she persavered with it tho ... i find it makes me cough when i first smoke it each morning .... cough soon goes ... tell her to drag it enough to satisfy her nicotine cravings for a couple of hours if possible ... and see if the cough is still there ... assuming its more related to teh same cough a lot of us initially get from e-cigs than it is her illness ? |
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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2009, 09:22:30 PM » |
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The only things I've noticed since I started vaping is a insatiable craving for watercress
No offence intended cadgaboo .... but LOL ... watercress .... thats brilliant man ...  Tongue spots .. yeah .. id keep yer eye on em man ... maybe harmless ... i cant even see mine proper ... way at back of tongue .. all way across from one side to the otehr .... hmmm Its possible i would still be having these same things if i werent vaping .. or worse in long run if i were smoking cigs ... But if there are negative side effect(s) .. i wanna know about em .. and this forum is likely the ideal place to share and find out |
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« Reply #7 on: April 02, 2009, 09:33:54 PM » |
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I had them when I first started to vape....it gets better...oraldine seemed to work for me...  |
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« Reply #8 on: April 02, 2009, 11:41:07 PM » |
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she coughs on every attempted drag/pull (which doesnt happen with regular cigs). why but That had me in stitches Spoink. LMAO!
has she persavered with it tho ... i find it makes me cough when i first smoke it each morning .... cough soon goes ... tell her to drag it enough to satisfy her nicotine cravings for a couple of hours if possible ... and see if the cough is still there ... assuming its more related to teh same cough a lot of us initially get from e-cigs than it is her illness ? She hasnt persevered with it as she coughs without fail on even the smallest of pulls, where hardly any vapour is even produced. Thats why I thought she might be having some kind of reaction to the PG or something? Its like a 'tickly' cough and deffinitely not JUST down to here COPD or even her asthma. Shame, because I thought she would have been the ideal canditate for e-cigs. I might get some 8mg at some point and let her try that.... she's tried as low as about 14mg liquid so I dont think its a nicotine throat hit thats causing the cough. Cheers for the advice mate. |
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« Reply #9 on: April 03, 2009, 05:23:48 AM » |
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Tickly / dry cough ... definitely same as what i get .. maybe she gets it worse than i do ... each morning, or when ive not vaped for a few hours .. it can be a bit nippy / hoarse ... but usually fine after five mins .. then i love vapeing again for sake of health .. asking her to keep trying it for an hour isnt too much to ask .... wait a wee minute or 2 between puffs ... each puff she takes will be easier than one before ..... keep pesterin her .. she may just do it to shut you up |
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« Reply #10 on: April 03, 2009, 08:04:52 AM » |
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No offence intended cadgaboo .... but LOL ... watercress .... thats brilliant man ... I know spoink really weird isn't it! but at the mo I'm getting through approx 5 bags of the stuff a week! I can happily sit and munch my way through a whole bag at once. |
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« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2009, 09:41:13 AM » |
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Thanks for all the feedback guys.
My COPD - Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease - meant I was using an inhaler 3 or 4 times a day. Haven't touched it since Oct last year. Don't cough my guts up every morning either.
I'm still vapeing like a trooper - but I cut the e-liquid with BP Glycerine and a bit of water, which makes it cheap as chips and has the side benefit of reducing the nicotine, so I'm gradually weaning myself off that too.
Still can't overcome the dummy effect though, and sit at work vapeing the e-cigar all day. Probably vape twice as much as I used to smoke.
I guess I must just have some bacterial reaction to the vapour that gives me dog-breath.
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« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2009, 08:08:09 PM » |
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WOW!!!! I'm amazed at my lung function tests today.
After 38yrs of smoking analogues, my lungs are now 100% normal in less than 2 months of vaping.
I was having a chat with my asthma nurse and was told that our lungs reach maturity and stop growing at the age of 25, so from then on it's a downward slope really like other organs in our bodies. So the lung function test is based on the age of the person.
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« Reply #13 on: April 03, 2009, 08:20:50 PM » |
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WOW!!!! I'm amazed at my lung function tests today.
After 38yrs of smoking analogues, my lungs are now 100% normal in less than 2 months of vaping.
I was having a chat with my asthma nurse and was told that our lungs reach maturity and stop growing at the age of 25, so from then on it's a downward slope really like other organs in our bodies. So the lung function test is based on the age of the person.
That is great news - I am so happy for you, cadgaboo. Congrats on getting your lungs back. Did you tell the nurse about ecigs? |
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« Reply #14 on: April 03, 2009, 08:24:54 PM » |
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WOW!!!! I'm amazed at my lung function tests today.
After 38yrs of smoking analogues, my lungs are now 100% normal in less than 2 months of vaping.
I was having a chat with my asthma nurse and was told that our lungs reach maturity and stop growing at the age of 25, so from then on it's a downward slope really like other organs in our bodies. So the lung function test is based on the age of the person.
That is great news - I am so happy for you, cadgaboo. Congrats on getting your lungs back. Did you tell the nurse about ecigs? Oh yes, I had it in my hand the whole time I was in there lol, I sat there vaping on it as we were talking after all the tests were done. LOL I was also telling her about some individuals trying to ban it, she said in her opinion anything that gets someone off tobacco is a plus, it shouldn't matter whether it be the NHS ss products or anything else. |
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« Reply #15 on: April 03, 2009, 09:22:39 PM » |
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Cadgagoo ... A bag of watercress a day cadgaboo is far healthier than the crap i munch on at night ... so thats a double bonus .. you switch from cigs to e-cig .. makin you healtier .. and as a result ... you started munchin on watercress .. makin you healthier ....
maybe its why youre lungs are healing so quick .. congrats man
R ... maybe you always had polecat breath, but your partner could never smell it over the smell of the tobacco .... haaa .. i jest
you could always try vaping the menthol ... maybe my breath smells too and everyones just too polite to mention
well ... its definitely a small price to get off the cigs ..
you never answered my question ... is it a miracle that you now dont have COPD, or is it normal for this to go away when you stop teh cause ?
i'd love to read some more peoples similar success stories .... very inspiring
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« Reply #16 on: April 04, 2009, 12:23:42 AM » |
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You know I do wonder if the glycerine thats vaped plays a part in the healing process and not just giving up the tobacco products.
I've heard a lot about people who have given up smoking by the more for want of a better word conventional ways like cold turkey, using NHS patches, inhaltor ect have become quite ill or are forever seeming to catch every bug going for months on giving up tobacco.
If this is the case how come all of us who vape are so well and feeling great and feeling so much healthier, why have none of us reported feeling like crap or seemingly having flue like symptoms or any other ailments?
OK you could say that it's because we are still getting our nicotine but what about those who are vaping 0 nic, even they have reported as feeling much fitter and better than before.
So could it be that we arent getting the usual so called smokers flue because of the glycerine? is it actually helping us heal?
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« Reply #17 on: April 04, 2009, 01:26:21 AM » |
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My partner quit cigs 15 months and for the first 6 months was quite unwell..catching everything, colds, flu his body ached...and got cancer (nothing to do with giving up cigs)....doctors told him it was quite usual for people to be unwell for the first few months... Edited |
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« Reply #18 on: April 09, 2009, 03:26:52 PM » |
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I was introduced to vaping by a senior paramedic who conducts first aid type training where i work, He was on 60+ fags a day and gave up with an E-Cig.
Due to his profession and his analness he reseached nicotine liquid thourghly and could find nothing that bad, if anything.
I work with Doctors daily and they all said if it stops me smoking tobacco it's a good thing, in their mind it's the same as a patch.
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« Reply #19 on: April 09, 2009, 08:44:49 PM » |
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My doctors seem just to be intrigued.....and have no objections... |
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« Reply #20 on: April 17, 2009, 04:12:43 PM » |
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I find the mention here of spots/ulcers on the tongue quite interesting. For the first month after switching to e-cigs I did get ulcers but they went pretty sharpish and I've been free of them since. The thing is, my dentist told me to expect ulcers simply as a result of giving up smoking (I'd told her that I intended to). Nothing to do with vaping it seems, just your body adjusting to the chemical change once all that tar/smoke/general crap leave your system. So I think everything reported here is good news, especially the lung capacity thing. I stopped playing five-a-side a couple of years ago due to the smoking slowing me down...I'm seriously thinking about starting it up again as I feel SO much fitter now |
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« Reply #21 on: April 30, 2009, 02:39:46 PM » |
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Another side-effect of vaping is that my urine stinks to high heaven. The smell started just after I made the switch. Can't ascribe it to anything other than the vaping.
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« Reply #22 on: April 30, 2009, 03:35:14 PM » |
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Another side-effect of vaping is that my urine stinks to high heaven. The smell started just after I made the switch. Can't ascribe it to anything other than the vaping.
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« Reply #23 on: April 30, 2009, 03:42:20 PM » |
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I've noticed that, but I think it has more to do with the start of the asparagus season than vaping  |
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...or the fact that now your sense of smell has retuned! LOL!  |
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« Reply #25 on: June 01, 2009, 05:54:21 AM » |
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Hi r898713 .... you mind if i call you R ? R ... That is really excellent man .... I have no idea what Chronic Obstructive Pulmonary Disease is ... but sounds quite nasty ... will google it later ... so is that like a wee miracle or is it common for it to disappear after stopping the source of the problem ? Havent had anyone smell my breath .. but i imagine it smells of coffee and Lorann coconut ... cant remember what a polecat smells like .. been tryin to cut down on em The title health benefits may be apt for me what i would like to say / ask. I been gettin heart palpitations .. or something ... not sure, but somethin around that area definitely aint right .... only noticed it since around time i made the switch .... so hard to say if its a side effect of stoppin cigs, or startin vapein. i know the obvious answer is go to doctor, but im sure he will say stop vapeing, since its currently a big unkown and kicked in at same time i started .. but i love nicotine too much .. i know i wd just go back onto cigs again ... grrrr .. the stuff needs more testing ... well .. the syptoms are, slight tightness of chest / shortness of breath as lungs contract or something ... then like a surge, or spasm from around centre of chest, shooting upwards ... they come and go .. but can get them every few secs or so ..... not painful .. but certainly discomforting ... seem to be worse when in bed at night ... maybe cos im less active and more aware i guess a medical forum would be better for this post, but feel it belongs here, since there are sooo much we dont know about e-cigs, and may be relevant. i read that poll that shows most peoples 30ml bottle of juice lasts 3 weeks approx .. mine lasted over 4 weeks, so i dont seem to be over doing it. SO MY QUESTION IS: ... Anyone else been havin these symptoms since switchin, and maybe not said ? AND, I also see wee kinda spots or something across the back of my tongue ... never noticed that before i started vapeing .. not to say they werent already there .. just i never noticed em til now .... but thats a place you dont wanna get problems with either ... anyone else got those ? It may be handy to have a thread like this ... with health benefits .. but also, health issues people have ... until some proper testing is done on this stuff ... it will be up to us to communicate possible side effects with each other .. so dont hold back ..... no matter how silly it seems .. some one else be having the same side effect since switching ... Id say the health benefits are huge .. even though so little research has been done ... with what we do know about analogue cigs .. id say its a fair bet that e-cig is the lesser of the 2 evils You prob think im a paranoid hypochondriac now ... but im not paranoid ... its those men that spread the rumours about me .. over their radios ... Anyway .. Sorry for hijacking your thread R ... back over to you man ... I think you may find it is too much nicotine, it's like when you have too much caffeine. My sister got admitted to hospital with heart palpitations, I was really worried till I found out she was swallowing tons of ProPlus lol. Cut down on the vapeing a bit, or use a lower mg, I find I vape heavily in the evenings if I'm just sitting watching tv or whatever. Hope this helps. |
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« Reply #26 on: June 01, 2009, 05:58:31 AM » |
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You know I do wonder if the glycerine thats vaped plays a part in the healing process and not just giving up the tobacco products.
I've heard a lot about people who have given up smoking by the more for want of a better word conventional ways like cold turkey, using NHS patches, inhaltor ect have become quite ill or are forever seeming to catch every bug going for months on giving up tobacco.
If this is the case how come all of us who vape are so well and feeling great and feeling so much healthier, why have none of us reported feeling like crap or seemingly having flue like symptoms or any other ailments?
OK you could say that it's because we are still getting our nicotine but what about those who are vaping 0 nic, even they have reported as feeling much fitter and better than before.
So could it be that we arent getting the usual so called smokers flue because of the glycerine? is it actually helping us heal?
I found this somewhere, can't remember where: "A powerful preventive against pneumonia, influenza and other respiratory diseases may be promised by a brilliant series of experiments conducted during the last three years at the University of Chicago's Billings Hospital. Dr. Oswald Hope Robertson last week was making final tests with a new germicidal vapor — propylene glycol — to sterilize air. If the results so far obtained are confirmed, one of the age-old searches of man will finally achieve its goal... "...the researchers found that the propylene glycol itself was a potent germicide. One part of glycol in 2,000,000 parts of air would — within a few seconds — kill concentrations of air-suspended pneumococci, streptococci and other bacteria numbering millions to the cubic foot." From a really old study... no idea if it has any relevance today or to ecigs, but interesting nonetheless Think though we ought to keep it to ourselves else everywhere will sell out with swine flu and all |
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« Reply #27 on: June 01, 2009, 07:27:13 AM » |
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Check out the study from Time Mag (study was conducted in 1942) Health benefits Studies completed by Dr. Oswald Hope Robertson of University of Chicago's Billings Hospital have shown propylene glycol inhalation may prevent pneumonia, influenza and other respiratory diseases. Time Magazine - Air Germicide http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,932876-1,00.html |
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« Reply #28 on: June 01, 2009, 01:54:40 PM » |
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Hi, I`m new here. I`ve been using eliquid since middle of march. Found it of great benefit to stop the ciggs and cigars but the misses has been coming out with blisters on her skin which are extremely itchy. Been to the doc, tried different lotions and antibiotics, but was wondering if it was related to the eliquid. Has anyone else out there experienced this? I would appreciate your comments. Thanks for reading.
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Hi there and welcome to the forum. I have heard of people with PG allergies who have come out in something similar and hives, so it might be worth trying a VG based liquid such as ECOpure or Johnsons Creek (assuming that she hasn't tried this already)
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